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Mike364
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Sep 08, 2004 - 03:34   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
I was wondering if anyone could help me out with a quick question? There is a piece of music that I think was composed by Haydn. It is either a symphony or small string group. The defining characteristic is that it has a few "false" endings at the end. If anyone could help me with this I would appreciate in a ton. Thanks in advance, Mike.

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Sep 09, 2004 - 03:38   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Most probably you are referring to Joseph Haydn's String Quartet in E flat, Op. 33, No. 2, The Joke (see performance reviews here and here). There are also false endings in others of his works, for example the Symphony No. 90 (see a review).

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George Miller
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Nov 19, 2004 - 04:23   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Recently I was informed that Haydn was "black". Needless to say I was astonished.
Do you know of any reliable sources on this matter?
Thank you,
George Miller, MD

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Nov 19, 2004 - 11:00   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Mr. Miller, there is an anecdote about Prince Esterhazy once calling Haydn blackamoor (black Moor) during a concert because of his dark complexion, maybe from smallpox.

People talk more about Beethoven having a mulatto face, but this seems to refer to his looks, rather than to his family.

For example, with a Google search you may find different opinions about these points, of course.

Jim Stokes
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May 07, 2006 - 06:59   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
I can't recall the symphony #. However I have in mind one of most unusual and entertaining works of any composer in a late Haydn symphony. It had one of the last movements turning abruptly into a piano concerto. It was so advanced a composition for that time, that it could have been writen in our times.

Can anyone please help me.

Thanks!

bmuratovic
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Oct 12, 2007 - 17:47   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Hi, can someone let me know if there is an online Haydn family tree?

Regards,
Boris


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