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Ondor May 10, 1998 - 10:00    Kosher Slaughter: horrible! The Kosher method of slaughter involves slitting an animal's throat and bleeding it without first rendering it unconscious.This method is debated.The animal is still CONSCIOUS!

Evan Powerling Apr 11, 1999 - 10:00    Re: Kosher Slaughter: horrible! Is God Almighty horrible? Do you not realize that killing the animal in its blood, without letting it bleed to death, is actually the wrong way. Read 1Samuel 14:32-34 and understand that Saul was responsible for the people being famished to the point they rushed on the animals and slew them on the ground instead of hanging them up or placing them over the edge ( the great stone? mentioned in vs. 34 ) and slitting the throat to drain the blood. Even today it is sin for Christians (most remain ignorant of this fact) to disobey God in Acts 15:20 and especially Acts 15:28 ( "the Holy Spirit advocates abstaining from blood" ). May the TRUTH about the proper way to prepare meat to eat come to light not only for better health ,( why all the cancer from red meat ?), but for righteousness sake.

Elizabeth Collins Jun 16, 1999 - 10:00    Re: Kosher Slaughter: horrible! Why kill anything, kosher or not???? Stop using the Bible as a cop-out to justify man's brutal behavior toward other living things. Human beings do not need meat to survive, whether the Bible says it's OK or not. Why not err on the side of kindness and stop the killing???

Susan Roghair - President of Animal Rights Online Jul 20, 1999 - 10:00    Re: Kosher Slaughter: horrible! Evelyn Powerling wrote: "Why kill anything, kosher or not???? Stop using the Bible as a cop-out to justify man's brutal behavior toward other living things. Human beings do not need meat to survive, whether the Bible says it's OK or not. Why not err on the side of kindness and stop the killing???" BRAVO EVELYN! I couldn't have said it better myself! I wish other people would imagine life as a cow......... I would like to take you on a trip. A very sad but very truthful one. But first I would like you to open your mind and become a cow. Just for this purpose. So, you now a cow, will be off on an "adventure".... Unfortunate for you, you have been born into a factory farm, so you now open your eyes and take your first steps in a building. A scary building, a building where all you hear is screaming of fellow cows,and when all you smell is death. You have also been born into a factory farm that kills kosher style. After years of confinement in a cage too small to look behind you, you are taken out. You have lost all memory of your mother long ago, but little do you know you will leave this world the same way she did. All of a sudden, a havey iron chain is clamped around one of your rear legs, then you are jerked off your feet and hung upside down by a single leg. You are by nature a very gentle creature, but this situation is too much for you to handle. You are provoked into hysteria. You leg is broken and many of you joints are ruptured. A clamp is inserted into your nostrils to enable the slaughterer to kill you with a single stroke. You are fully conscience until the moment of your death. You then leave this world as you hang in the air with your neck slit. Now, I am sure you are glad now, that you are in actuality a human. Many people think "Phew, good thing I am not a cow-to-be-slaughtered!" And many people think "thats not how cows are killed!" But unfortunately many cows are killed kosher style. Please...........find compassion in your hearts, and live your life as cruelty free as possible. Susan Roghair - EnglandGal@aol.com - President Animal Rights Online P O Box 7053 Tampa, Fl 33673-7053 Website: http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/1395/ Message boards: http://www.envirolink.org/express/

beth Aug 03, 1999 - 10:00    Re: Kosher Slaughter: horrible! Actually, I am a vegetarian and find all slaughter horrible. However I have recently had to research slaughter methods for some foreign guests. Research has shown that the so called "humane" methods such as electrocution or the "bolt" actually cause very high levels of pain and fear that show up on the eeg in the moments after death. The kosher method of slaughter slices the main veins causing instantaneous unconsciousness due to the immediate loss of large quantities of blood. The brain shows zero levels of fear and pain in the moments after death. Also, though the brain is dead immediately, heart continues to beat for a few minutes draining the body of blood and making for cleaner meat. With the bolt, electrocution or euthanasia, the heart stops leaving high levels of blood in the meat.

david Altman Oct 05, 1999 - 10:00    Re: Kosher Slaughter: horrible! Imagine how clean death can be. White gloves and sanitary conditions. Yes slaughter is bad but if you have to do it, do it in a way that you don't have to see the results of your actions. Go behind a screen and flick a switch. Its dead before your eyes a machine packages it neatly. Like the Nazis, slaughter,can be so efficient and clean. The only problem is that by killing with a bullet, a switch, or some other supposedly (more humane) way mans humanity is lost along the way.At least if we must kill then face the life that you would slaughter, make a prayer so their is sanctity and inflict the minimal amount of pain. Kosher slaughter not only provides minimal pain but allows man to retain his humanity. Non-Kosher Slaughter looks nicer but is it?

Madeleine Valely Oct 18, 1999 - 10:00    Re: Kosher Slaughter: horrible! In reply to David Altman: Oh, so Kosher slaughter is preferable because it makes HUMANS feel better. As always, the interests of the animal involved are not considered. You brought up the issue of killing with "a bullet or a switch," if we "must kill them." How about this groundbreaking thought: We don't NEED to kill them at all. We don't "need" to consume animal flesh, other than to please our palettes. Even the federal government (heavily subsidized by the Beef and Dairy industries) in this decade has admitted that meat is not necessary for human survival, and may in fact be detrimental to human health. We don't have to kill animals, we want to. I'm a vegan, in optimal health. If man is truly to "retain his humanity," he must stop the slaughter (Kosher and non) of animals for food and fiber. - Madeleine Vallely

Madeleine Oct 18, 1999 - 10:00    Re: Kosher Slaughter: horrible! In reply to Evan Powerling - Are you suggest that Jews who eat animals that were slaughtering by the Kosher method do not get cancer and heart disease? That is simply ridiculous. If you believe that, you are hiding your head in the sand.

Max farrugia Feb 07, 2000 - 11:00    Re: Kosher Slaughter: horrible! The malta government is proposing the kosher slaughter of animals in a proposed new law about animal welfare. The new law is being prepared as part of the exercise the Maltese government is doing to become a member of the EU. My group called International animal Rescue Malta is opposing and campaigning against this. We willbe very much obliged if you send us any information. Our address is International Animal Rescue 10, Duke of Edinburgh Street Hamrum Malta. Telephopne 356-233321 Fax 356 - 233321 email as from 9.02.2000 iarm093@waldonet.net.mt Regards Max Farrugia

Diane May 16, 2001 - 06:48    Judaism mandates kindness to animals. This is a talmudic interpretation of the Biblical passage requiring that a person must feed her animals before herself. Their welfare should be prioritized above her own because of their absolute dependency and helplessness. In ancient time, animals may have been needed for survival because of the scarcity of other food sources. With the abundance of agriculture in America, all animal slaughter for food is unnecessary. In a humane world, the entertainment value of meat's flavor is no justification for its ingestion. Additionally, even the most conservative dietetic textbooks advocate vegetarianism because it inherently provides more fiber and less saturated fat. Kosher slaughter? No slaughter!

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