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George Schrader
Oct 29, 1998 - 11:00   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Corridor Concept

The concept appears to possess the potential of achieving ecological and environmental sustainability remarkably carried out through today’s in place incentives of economy and the pursuit of personal freedoms.



Moving mankind in a sustainable direction

I agree that to few of the population are concerned enough to act on ecological and environmental degradation. Considering mans growing population and its impacts the depletion of resources is inevitable. Surely Mans own level of well being lays at risk with in the continued loss of environmental and ecological resources.

I have been exploring what appears to be a wonderful opportunity to not only solve a great many ecological and environmental problems but a way in which can be carried out with the inplace incentives of today’s economic and social drives.

In my concern for ecological and environmental losses caused by transport, I conjured up the need to separate the impacts of transport. This resulted in the conception of an enclosed system or corridor. Realizing that the greater structure cost could not be justified today in environmental and ecological benefits. I began to explore the economic and social benefits that could be more readily understood by the population.

Enclosures benefits are enormous to put it mildly. Reducing fuel consumption 95%, Increasing structure life 8 to 10 times, eliminating deaths, injuries, and property losses, seem alone significant enough to justify the greater costs. These benefits however are only the beginning as there are a great many efficiencies that it also accomplishes. Transport costs play a significant role in nearly every
I am looking to discuss a conceptual view regarding a corridor concept.
aspect of our lives. Transport costs play a substantial part in determining the final cost in products and services. Substantial reductions in transport costs will in turn increase availability. Surprisingly, I understand transport costs make up perhaps as much as 80% of a products cost. transport cost are applied from the very beginning from securing raw product through storage, refinement, storage, packaging, warehousing, retail and even your action purchasing and getting it to that point of consumption. This suggests to me the ability to make products and services that much more available to those developing populations, thus speeding their development period and capping population growth.

The benefits of applying the greater efficiency of current technology also leaves in another efficiency called flow rate. An automated environment is an efficiency all its own. Suppose that the structure costs of lane mile was 10 times greater but traffic flow could be increased 20 times over its comparison structure. One lane could handle 20 lanes of traffic. Less structure, less footprint, less cost.

Ultimately this corridor concept seems to promise the ability to curb resource consumption, to speed the undeveloped populations modern development and stabilization, all through enhancing personal freedoms to unheard of levels.

George schrader@beaches.net

George Schrader
Oct 31, 1998 - 11:00   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Moving Mankind in a Sustainable Direction

Is there any one out there willing to intelligently discuss a holistic approach to moving mankind in a sustainable direction?

I have been exploring a real and visionable solution. One that promises the ability to not only address ecological and environmental degradation but possesses the ability to be carried out under the inplace incentives of economics only furthered by an enormous enhancement of personal freedoms.

I know this sounds like a crock but bear with me for a second as I have been exploring this conceptual view for quite awhile. Taking into account all that should be considered is a monstrous undertaking. Understand I can reasonably support my madness but lack the time here to go over all the details. Before you scoff at some point allow me to reply and support it.

Consider the facts: Mans growing population and its ensuing impacts are far greater than natures ability to cope with out substantial ,losses occurring in ecological and environmental resources. Mans own level of well being lays in the balance of sustaining these resources. The modern population is not sufficiently concerned to prevent degradation. That developing population is even less concerned especially when it will slow there own development processes. I cannot frankly imagine that voluntary participation until all the population has reached equality in a modern civilization. Obviously speeding mans population to this point will initiate the real concernes of the population to establish a continual effort at preserving resources. Our question seems to be of how to level or reduce mans growing population and or how to reduce its impacts to sustainable levels. Non of which has any satisfactory solution been proposed. Stabilizing the population growth humanly appears to be a matter of bringing in the undeveloped into modern status. This however presents the problem that if all the worlds population where allowed the same resource consumption enjoyed by the much smaler modern population, we would simply exhaust resources even before it could be accomplished. Obviously some how resource consumption needs to be brought to a level where equality is possible. This is something we are very good at. Efficiency. Wonderfully we do have some extraordinary opportunity to employ the very technology we have been generating in the last few decades. I have been exploring one specific area of transport infrastructure that has not had any reasonable amount of technology applied. That lack of application affords the ability when applied to increase its efficiency about 10 fold. Amazingly the interplay of this efficiency vastly improves the very abilities of our society. In my own frustrations with transport and the realization that because of its degradation of environmental and ecological impacts that it is simply not sustainable, I began exploring first how it could be changed to reflect the environmental and ecological concerns. Although elevating and enclosing transportation processes satisfied sustainability issues, the lane costs of It was substantially greater. Knowing that ecological and environmental benefits are difficult to establish economically, I began exploring what other benefits could be accomplished. That exploration yielded some wonderful results. The corridor concept as i call it is essentially a enclosed structure one whose design is comprehensive, as it includes all applicable transport processes. Vehicular of course but too it is a simple permanent structure that allows the introduction of other processes such as electricity, water, telecommunications, sewage and even the mail. All these processes necessary infrastructures can be carried out in conduits provided in the structure. There are some enormous advantages here. Advantages that I can only touch upon.

Its far greater abilities in the efficient transporting of vehicles will of course be the mainstay of its benefits. In an enclosed automated environment technology can be readily applied.

1. Fuel consumption can be reduced 95%.
2. Structure life can be expanded 10 times.
3. Safety would be unparalleled, ending deaths, injuries, and property losses ( insurance would be unnecessary). Would end Auto dependency conserving and diverting those resources for developing populations.
4. Substantially reduce structure need. An enclosed environment will allow the speed to be dramatically increased perhaps 10 fold. The distance between vehicles can be reduced to a few feet. Overall one lane could probably handle what now takes 20 lanes. The greater flow rate can significantly reduce the amount of structure needed to accomplish the same thing. Perhaps the structure may cost 10 times more but moves 20 times more traffic. doesn't that mean its cost is 1/2 as much.
5. My FAVORITE benefit is the personal freedom derived with the greater speed and automation, the ability to personally interact with a far larger area. Automation will allow one to allocate transport time to other endeavors while leaving one with the ability to personally interact with an area 1/2 the size of the USA. In Interstate situation 600 miles per hour for 1.5 hours = a daily commutable area with a 1800 mile diameter. Awesome!!!! Yes?. Think of all the things we could accomplish.

It might seem large corporations may be intent on protecting established markets but believe they will be quick to abandon stabilized markets in the modern world so that they can reap that far and larger market concerned with the far larger population and potential market concerned with the developing population. If indeed this efficiency where applied to the production of goods and services then I suspect it will reduce costs maybe 50% and that occurrence will make the necessary resources, goods and services all that more available to the developing population, thus speeding their development and their own growth stabilization.

Implementation will be easy. A separate system won't work. Converting sections of interstate first as the structure will be large enough to accommodate the largest normal vehicle (tractor trailer). entering the system where it is in place can be as easy as pulling on to a platform that secures the vehicle and moves it through the system at exit the vehicle can go on its merry way on its own. I would suspect it will take a decade just to replace interstate and major thorough fares. Eventually I would believe because of its comprehensive inclusion of other transport processes, its greater structure life and efficiencies it would replace all roads and end auto dependency. Well I got to close presume I may of swamped you as most don't even reply. I am beginning to think I need a reality check.

What do you think?
What Are your concerns?
Will you support this Corridor Concept?

Please visit Sustainable Development Forum

http://forums.delphi.com/m/mydelphi/mydelphi.asp?sigdir=SustainableDev

Prevention is the best cure!
George schrader@beaches.net

People in Action
Nov 12, 1998 - 11:00   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Global Ideas Bank

One of the possible additional sites to present this corridor concept may be the Global Ideas Bank.

Link: Global Ideas Bank

Louis Agnew
Dec 04, 1998 - 11:00   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Re: Moving Mankind in a Sustainable Direction

I have been working on this same problem, how to preach to the unconverted and literarily disinterested. The solution took about 20 years to figure out and I put it on a web page. Check this out once:
http://www.ameritech.net/users/mesroqilar/415RadicalEcology.html
If you can't believe the alphabet is the cultural template upon which western economics rests its value structure, than just try to avoid the pervasive influence of the alphabet. A good place to start is to memorize this one: Ca Te Go Re Ya Ho Wa Le Ni Bo Su Po Mo Fe E I A U O Xi Qo Ke Ju Da Vi Ze (the Categoria). Don't worry about forgetting the historical alphabetic value hierarchy, it was programmed indellibly into your head shortly after you were born. It takes motivation and experience to see beyond it's tragic flaws while following it is economically rewarding...

Link: Beyond Radical Deep Ecology

Tom Osher
Jan 27, 1999 - 11:00   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Re: Moving Mankind in a Sustainable Direction

All ABOARD THE PEDALBUS -WORLDWIDE COLLABORATION



Date: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 10:26:49 AM



Bagelhole1 (http://bagelhole.hypermart.net/), under construction, calls for collaborators, globally, to share ideas as to the best ways (design, mediums,etc) we can think of to build a bus for about 50 people, that is a hybrid, run both by pedal power and electrical (generated by the pedal power and the turbine on top), equipped with sail. There would be a driver who steers, changes gears, and brakes. Music, perhaps, to inspire the pedal/passengers, made out of bamboo partially, maybe. All passengers ride/pedal for free, of course. Electric kicks in, when there are not enough pedal/riders. Music to inspire pedallers, and start to do things in the "new" way, i.e. creative expressiveness.



Every city could have such a bus to bring attention to people to aid in soliciting low-tech, homemade style ideas for self-sustainability, thinking in terms of small neighborhoods, in mutual co-operation with each other, as a way to really kick off community contingency preparation, globally for y2k or any future disasters. This needs to be done very quickly. So please heed, if you hear the call, this post and come up with some good ideas to submit and/or post this as appropriately as you can, to widen the scope, please.



Finally, this could be viewed,in addition to the above, as our first real exercise in global collaboration to promote self-sustainability.

from the heart of the bagelhole

bagelhole1

415-824-421

bagelhole1@aol.com

____________________________



LETS TAKE THE NEXT STEPS ALL TOGETHER NOW



I would like to suggest a way, and see what you all think. 1.I think we need to prioritize creating self-sustainability(short-term initially) for everyone, home-owners, apartment dwellers, homeless and poor, neighborhoods, with low-tech, home-made style self-sustainability ideas. If we can come up with this list, by bringing this idea to the attention of everyone we can, mine the ingeniousness of humanity thru the web, to have in place, within 3 months, so that when the general public is aware of the possibility of infrastructure breakdown for an indefinite period there will be a place for them to direct their energy and implement to make the self-sustainable neighborhoods, globally.



The challenge to the y2k conscious is to get this type of substantive contingency in place before 2000. Then no one need die or suffer unnecessarily, nor do we need the imposition of martial law, no need for global panic, as the shit approaches the fan, and we lay the groundwork for what people (mostly) seem to be craving in their hearts: a new better way of living on this planet. That is, self-sustainable, ecological, no waste, mutually co-operative, web of autonomous communities to which we are all members, fluid, consensual, interconneted through the web, various, multidimensional, unique, non- sovereign. Only the individual need be sovereign. This would lead to the end of violence dominated, waste/suicide culture that exists today.



First, the funky self-sustainable part before 2000. Create the safety net, the organic structure from the grass roots. The groundwork for the new paradigm to grow out of.



Not everyone needs to be working on this right now. 2. There are many other issues that need to be addressed. Like nuclear missiles. While governments still exist they have the premise of being responsible, and they need to be made to disassemble every nuclear missile that exists before 2000. They have no right to jeopardize the planet by keeping these intact when y2k threatens, by creating the possibility of them accidentally going off. A huge list of people, and organizations, created thru the web is one way of exerting pressure on the powers to be is one idea.



3. Another priority is gaining help from those gov't. orgs that are there to help, and don't quite know what to do. There is many instances where the government have indicated their willingness to enter into a mutually co-operative mode with citizen action groups and volunteers. The Redcross, Fema, DOE, Gov't emerg. groups and orgs like NERT(neighborhood emergency relief team). They need to be directed towards publicizing the call for lo-tech sustainable ideas, stockpiling for endangered or challenged communities like homeless, disabled, drug dependent, poor people in projects, hospitals, pharmacies, locating and coordinating parts for maintenance of all mechanical devices, organizing collectives and whereabouts of resources and skills are a few things these orgs. can help address and sponsor. Citizen volunteers providing the manpower along with skills and ideas. And many other areas that people can add to the list of what needs to be addressed.



4. Websites that already exist can co-ordinate all the activity that is going on everywhere, to make sure that the best of the best is easily available, and that it is consistently improving. A lot like what the cassandra project is doing already. All these activities to be carried out by volunteers, those who hear the call. Neighborhood skills and resources thru databasing needs to be addressed. This has just begunY2K community web sites to go!



Simplicity is key to everything, faith in the process, try to be a model. Community building is the antidote to alienation, one of the things that have unhinged so many people. It is healing. Only need to control your need to control. These ideas are a gift from the Universe, they don't belong to me or anyone, do they make sense, could you show me the flaws, so we can improve them. I'm tired of so much talk, leading nowhere.



Let each of us be guided by our hearts, not our fears, not outside experts. The meaningfulness of life is directly related to how much you allow yourself to care, in my opinion. Lets stop having the blind lead the blind. Group mind is thru the internet, I realize most of the world isn't connected to the Internet, but we are not forgetting about these people. They can be communicated with appropriately thru media and hard copy. But they will learn anyway, soon enough, and we don't need to necessarily "educate" them. We just need to provide a way for them, thru organizing over the web, creating the appropriate lists and making them available, and addressing what must be addressed now. We can do it ourselves. The internet makes it possible.



Freedom is directly related to responsibility. The more free you are, the more willing and able you are to shoulder the responsibility. The ability to respond to what's happening right now. We all need to be free, you can't be free if you are addicted, attached, or dogmatic. I realize that we are all capable of the entire range of human behaviour, human nature is fluid, adaptable. We need to be flexperts, drop all our sticky attachments, notice our deep interdependence and change it to interdependance.



All of us can be self-deluded at any moment, this obvious realization, should keep our minds open. Each one of us has the ability to discern to determine what is really real, so that our response is appropriate. Fear and greed have alot to do with obfuscating the reality and causing distorted and inappropriate reactions.



When people, put aside the tendency to compete thru egos, and pull together in our big moment of truth, and we can feel at last, at home, and connected with all of humanity, our family, take a deep breath and breathe a deep sigh of relief, accepting our differences and individuality, but acknowledging our equality, in our insignificance(in relationship to the Universe), in the fact that we all share the same dilemma and ultimate destiny, in that we are all more or less, relatively speaking, the same distance from the source, or whatever unifies the Universe, that our only hope is to drop the shit and pull together. . .



We can begin to joyfully acknowledge the hope and possibility that exists in times of chaos and crisis that is in each of our hearts, right this moment, and from now on. I hope these thoughts mirror yours and resonate, and that there is a general consensus, that we can move into action/collaboration and to continue to focus and refocus, increasing our effectiveness and succeed in achieving substantive community contingency preparation for y2k before 2000, or any other of the numerous looming disasters that make our existences so tenuous, and have a happy new year.

In Unity, 824-4214 bagelhole1@aol.com Tom O (bagelhole1)


Tom Osher
Jan 27, 1999 - 11:00   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Re: Moving Mankind in a Sustainable Direction

This is in reference to the possibility of incipient horror that y2k portends



This is a rare opportunity for radical change, transforming the paradigm, of one against the world, to us, a sense of the human family. People are capable of anything, we are extremely adaptive, we could be cannibals, but most prefer to die from hunger, or saints, or in between. We aren't this and we aren't that, we are fluid, subject to change.



But how is it going to happen, if this opportunity arises, albeit fraught with grave consequences, as grave as it could be grand, its not going to happen magically, without a struggle of some sorts. But what sort of struggle is necessary?



The struggle is getting the appropriate contingencies in place before the deadline.



The appropriate contingency beyond the obvious stockpiling (many lists exists now), in my opinion, is self-sustainability for water, shelter, food, and fire. Many people in cities can grow their own food with columnar planters made from chicken wire and cardboard where they could grow 60 plants in a diameter of 14 inches. In cold climates, under simple glass structures, but there may be better methods using the technique known as aeroponics, where no soil is used.



I have collected many ideas about water, and keeping warm and figuring out how to have a fire or cooking source. There are many areas that can be prepared for, so that no one needs to suffer unduly, nor die, nor would martial law be necessary or justifiable. Martial law globally could lead to one world totalitarianism/gov't.



But my list for cheap and simple ideas for self-sustainability is hardly started and the next step is to harvest the ingenuity of mankind thru the net. We owe everything to the internet. The computer will transform our world both by being on and by not working. Oh wondrous tool.



For some people y2k is only midlife crisis for baby boomers, but for us, if we agree to act and lead the way, it will be the whole purpose for our existence, our raison d'etre, our manifest destiny.



They say, "When the entire Universe passes through the hole in the bagel, that is when the transformation shall begin." I believe that time is now.



Co-bagelly (in infinity),

bagelhole1

George Schrader
Apr 25, 1999 - 10:00   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Re: Moving Mankind in a Sustainable Direction

I checked out
Link: Beyond Radical Deep Ecology

I found as an Arborist the "Trees of Life" most delightful.
http://www.ameritech.net/users/mesroqilar/02Trees.html

especially "What we have chosen not to recognize is that we have taken up the role of a biospheric parasite."

I can’t just yet, however, give up.
I still have not figured out what you mean by the alphabet thing?
It is so frustrating to see the general populations lack of concern with biotic continuance. ]


PLEASE visit

Sustainable Society web page
http://members.delphi.com/geeoh

Sustainable Development Forum
http://forums.delphi.com/m/mydelphi/mydelphi.asp?sigdir=SustainableDev

Voice your concerns, observations, and insights. Be the Sapient Being you are!
sa pi ent 1 full of knowledge; wise; sagacious; discerning 2 of or relating to the existing human species (Homo sapiens )

George schrader@beaches.net

Tom Osher
May 12, 1999 - 10:00   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Making neighborhoodslow-tech,self-sustainable

This website is an experiment in global collaboration thru the internet to mine the ingeniousness of humanity. To make neighborhoods globally self-sustainable before 2000. Not only as the most responsible and intelligent answer to Y2K and any and all future possible disasters, but to lay the groundwork for a non-polluting, non-toxic, mutually co-operative network of self-sustainable, non-sovereign/inclusive communities throughout the world.



We are hoping that those who "pass through the bagelhole" will come out self-sustainable as well as their communities before 2000. We are hoping that individuals that have ideas to give will give and those who need to learn will take.



Volunteers (which we all are) are needed to cull the links we have, check the ideas,constantly honing and improving the current list.Internet access is all that is necessary.



We are also hoping that great new ideas for sustainable projects will be born, fostered, and designed here to be implemented there (wherever you are). That is what the projects section is for.



Hope you enjoy and leave with some sense of fulfillment and realize that the human family does not have to be dysfunctional but thru our common interconnectedness can create a world with which we can, in all humility, be proud of.



They say," When the entire Universe passes thru the bagelhole, that's when the Transformation will begin." I believe that time is now.



Tom O (bagelhole1) http://bagelhole.hypermart.net

__________________

One idea, that needs "partnering" is synergistic, solar-passive,

self-sustainable greenhouses around but not necessarily 10,000 sq.ft.

This type of green house can be modeled off of Anna Eddy's greenhouse in Cape Cod.

The vegetables would be grown using a method developed by P. Ziegler

called "aeroponics" a simple system growing organics vertically, with

looped nutrient tubing. The best method for growing as far as efficiency

and economy.

Both of these methods have been tried and proven and are available.

Brownfields or unutilized land or roofs can be used. Nat'l. Guard or

other agencies possibly could be used to construct to save money if

cities or gov't. is partnered in also.

All this could be done anywhere and everywhere. But it must be done

pretty soon, if there is to be winter harvests. Which is the purpose, to

serve as substantive contingency for cities, should food production

methods breakdown. If nothing happens, its still a good thing for

communities to have. The maintenance after construction is minimal

compared to the value of the yield.

Link: Through the Bagelhole

George Schrader
Oct 14, 2001 - 05:51   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Sustainable transport design promises to revolutionize humanity's level of well-being

I am promoting the awareness and developing interest with implementing a transportation system design called I.T. Integrated Transport.

IT's implementation promises to accomplish the greatest amount of good for the largest number of people and in the very shortest period of time. The design was concieved in 1970 using 1950's structural and technological applications. Simple applications whose introduction into that area of infrastructure which has remained unchanged, produces huge 80% and 90% efficiencies in social and economical processes.

In other words the large and burdensome consumptions of resources and energies by our present societies are completely unnecessary. We do have visionable means available that are not being utilized. Efficiencies that when implemented suggest the ability to maintain the entire human population in a similiar level of well-being as enjoyed by the modern population. Adequate levels of food, water, shelter, and healthcare. The humane leveling of premature deaths and the eventual leveling of population expansion.

Though IT integrated transport, is nothing more than a clever use of current abilities, it is one that will bring in implementation, with its large efficiencies the opportunity to support the human population in a far greater level of well-being. Being a physical product it can easily transcend the current social political boundaries. While its implementation will only speed and further those necessary progresses of uniting todays isolated populations into a whole earth society.

I beg of you to at least consider this opportunity as it does appear to be very capable of being carried out on a global level in but a few decades of time.

There is much of course about Its large benefits that i have not mentioned for the brevity which is needed here.

There is the ability to remove accidents, congestion,air pollution and a great many current occupations of time, resources and energies that are caught up inthe current transport and social processes.

The removal of these unneccessary occupations will then free up our time, lives, resources and energies toward other more deserving issues.

The differences between doing what we are now and what we could be doing are truly staggering.

I would be delighted to entertain any thoughts anyone might have.

George schrader@digitaleap.com

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