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V. J. Laxmanan
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Religion at crossroads

Many religious leaders, especially the liberals among the U. S. Catholics, view the election of Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, with a great deal of skepticism. Conservatives on the other hand are elated.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7563460/?GT1=6428

Hinduism also is at a crossroads. Never before have we seen the spectacle of the head of Kancji Mutt behind prison bars. Some have viewed Sir Jayendra Saraswati's Loukikam as a needless digress from his religious duties - see last sentence of the article "The Sankaracharya Affair", link given below.

http://www.chennaionline.com/society/11sankaracharya02.asp

Is this a forum appropriate to discuss some of these issues. I look forward to your responses and hope the forum moderator(s) will encourage such a discussion.

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quote:

V. J. Laxmanan wrote:

Is this a forum appropriate to discuss some of these issues.



Naturally, posts related to Hinduism are very welcome on this section. More possibilities:

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Etc...

Moderation has been minimal until now, only when necessary. For example, given the number of posts on Vedic Astrology, it was convenient for users to move those messages to a new more specific section about the topic.

Again, welcome. ;-)

V. J. Laxmanan
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Dear All:

Thanks a lot to the forum moderators for encouraging this topic.

I look forward to more discussion of the critical issues facing Hindus, if not Hinduism itself, in the wake of the unfortunate Kanchi Sankaracharya episode. Hinduism will surely survive this episode.

I once had the good fortune of meeting and seeking the blessing of all the three seers of the Kanchi Mutt, when all three acharyas were reigning simultaneously. I also had the great fortune of meeting with the two present seers on two different occasions. The reverence they commanded was simply stunning.

However, I was shocked and pained by the manner in which Sri Jayendra Saraswati was arrested and jailed and held without bail by the Tamilnadu government. It was as if a part of me was gone forever. I even stopped reciting the Lalitha Sahastranamam, very dear to the Sri Sri Sri Chandrasekhara Saraswati, for a period of time, after that episode. I felt as if the Gods themselves had let us down.

How could this happen? Is there indeed justice left in this world? I felt deeply betrayed. But even more was the thought that the truth may be more bitter than the mere arrest of a seer.

Firstly then, what does this tell us about the separation of church and state, heldly dearly in most modern nations. Heads of states, including one currenet and two former Presidents of the US visited Pope John Paul II's funeral. Here Church and State were not separated; they were fused together in a Holy alliance. There are many issues that are of great concern to US catholics but the US government has never tried to step in and impose its will. When it tried to do, as in the Terry Schiavo case, it was soundly rebuffed by the US courts and the highest court of the land.

Do Hindus hold such principles dear? Is government meddling too much into Hindu religious affairs and places of worship? What can we do to forge a new path that cames through the next millennium? What indeed are some of the critical issues facing religion, especially Hinduism?

I can list many more questions that come to my mind but the foremost to me was the principle of separation of church and state. Let me stop here now. I look forward to you views on this and other points of interest and concern shared by Hindus across the globe.

Anamika
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Dear Mr.Laxmanan,
Appreciate your concern towards Hinduism and preserving it's ethics.

How does it pain you if a person who has been cheating an entire community of people, betray them and their beliefs and indulge himself in criminal activities? How does it stop you from reciting your prayers ? Do u recite your prayers on behalf of someone ?

"The windmills of God grind slow, but sure".

Between before we go further into this topic of Hinduism and the government's indulgence into it's affairs, I would like to know whether you are in India or in anyother country?

It makes sense talk about the government, it's indulgence into religious affairs etc,.. if we are tax payers for that governement.

V. J. Laxmanan
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Dear Anamika:

Thanks for your remarks. I just wanted you to know that I am a Hindu (an accident of birth, really) regardless where I am located on this globe. As for the criminality of the 'person' you are referring to, I know nothing.

I pray not only for myself but for my family, for friends, my fellow human beings, and yes, sometimes also for the country as whole. If God betrays humans, humans have every right to let God know how they fail.

Even Narada cursed Narayana when He (Narayana) played a joke on him (Narada). This is the reason Narayana had to incarnate himself as Rama and seek the help of monkey lords like Sugreeva and Hanumaan.

My right to worship and the way I worship, without government interference, is paramount and is one of the fundamental human rights. Again this transcends national boundaries.

I sincerely hope more concerte "proof" is offered regarding the criminal acts that you are alluding to in your message. Then the world can really judge. At present, IMHO, it is all innuendo and gossip.

V. J. Laxmanan
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Apr 28, 2005 - 14:10   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Dear Anamika:

Please note the following from my first post.

Some have viewed Sir Jayendra Saraswati's Loukikam as a needless digress from his religious duties - see last sentence of the article "The Sankaracharya Affair", link given below.

http://www.chennaionline.com/society/11sankaracharya02.asp

Thus, the doctrine of separation of church and state is a double-edged sword. It also demands that religious leaders should not meddle in worldly affairs - Loukikam - and leave this to the politicians.

V. J. Laxmanan
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Dear All:

I just came across a very interesting article "Why strict churches are strong" by Judith Shulevitz

http://slate.msn.com/id/2118313/

When he was a cardinal, Pope Benedict XVI told a German journalist that the future of the Catholic Church lies in smaller churches made up of more dedicated followers — Christianity that is "characterized more by the mustard seed," as he put it.

Another notewrothy point is the following....

....with the reforms of Vatican II, the Mass began to be said in the vernacular and priests and nuns shed their otherworldly clothes. Would-be reformers blame church officials' refusal to yield to popular opinion on contraception, homosexuality, and priestly celibacy.

"The Catholic church may have managed to arrive at a remarkable, 'worst-of-both-worlds' position," he writes, "discarding cherished distinctiveness in the areas of liturgy, theology, and lifestyle, while at the same time maintaining the very demands that its members and clergy are least willing to accept."

Is faith simply a matter of picking and choosing what is convenient? Or, does it come from trying to adhere to what is right inspite of all the hurdles and difficulties that one must face?

Winky Pig
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karlo
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Dear All

Please can you help me to find DVD -Vishwamitra-
I am in U.K (Sheffield) and it should be region 2.

All the best

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