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Krishnamurti and a student, by Asit Chandmal Krishnamurti in group dialogue, India Krishnamurti talking with students A child approaches Krishnaji with a flower at the end of his last talk (India, January 1986), which ends with silence, by Asit Chandmal



jannis
Aug 20, 1999 - 10:00   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
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jasou .. endiaferomai na syzhthso gia auto pou milhse o K. Den xero kala englisch kai kano mia prospatheia Gr. Isos (Mina) katalabeneis Gr. An nai afhse mynhma an oxi by Jannis (Crete)

Kim
Aug 22, 1999 - 10:00   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
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Hey, I recently found UG's stuff on-line, too, and have been reading it for the past week. It seems to me that his manner is meant to kill the "I", or separate identity of the person--or at least to show that he does not value in the least what is not real (meaning the false sense of self/importance). I have come across descriptions of these harsh words in the downloaded writings, and though it sounds cruel, it gave me the experience of seeing how I have looked for affirmation and acceptance from others to validate my own existance. Why is it so devistating when we don't get this? What are we protecting? After reading UG, now I am in real conflict. Do I want pretty experiences of love and acceptance in this world (dream), or do I want to be free of duality? To be free of duality, means death of Kim and all of her desires to have a beautiful life, etc. I know I can create my own life, see what I want to see in the dream of my life, but is that enough? Isn't that all just manipulation of consciousness? Manipulation doesn't cut it for me. Unfortunately, the confilct within has escalated because of reading UG. All of which is okay. Kim

Jay
Aug 23, 1999 - 10:00   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
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Reading your message makes me want to read over UG's stuff again, although I'm not sure I'm completely ready for it yet! I feel a bit fragile at the moment for some strange reason. I'm sure there's something to all this. I feel I have only just started my journey anyway, and I'm not very advanced spiritually.

I'm glad you replied. I hope there are other forums around like this one. I have looked through Usenet and couldn't find anything though. There was someone who had a page and had his own forum there, but no-one posted any messages to it except him! (or her) =) I'll try and find it.

jay

Kim
Aug 25, 1999 - 10:00   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
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Reading UG wouldn't be my choice if I were feeling fragile. It rips every security blanket away from you. Reading JK feels more gentle. I read "The Awakening of Intelligence" last fall, then bought "Total Freedom", and have another little book that I can't find. What I found most interesting was his discussions on love/relationships. What I got out of it was that we humans are mainly just pursuing pleasure and looking for security. I could really see what he was saying, and changed my concept of romantic love. I no longer am looking to fall in or stay in love. Maybe real love is just the energy that lies behind this illusion of our everyday lives--and has no object (I am love vs. I love him/her/that).

Regarding beginning to see life as an illusion, reading JK really helped me. I started becoming aware of my thoughts-HOW SO MANY THOUGHTS DOMINATE MY EXPERIENCE IN EVERY MOMENT! This constant stream of thought creates the reality that I experience. I would recommend observing your thoughts in the moment as much as possible, and see what happens for you.

Another noticable change in me since reading JK is that I am not dominated or influenced by emotions to any significant degree any more. This was a natural development as a result of observing my life. Riding the emotional roller coaster is a human passtime that is a huge waste of energy. I do believe that when you see it, it is then over. That is, that knowing deeply that emotionalism is my way of being pathetic/victimized (in my case)then I can no longer fool myself and play the game.

My parting comment is to note the importance of your own experience and your own AUTHORITY. My experiences may not help you in the least, and if they are of no significance, don't waste time on understanding them. I am just saying that these have been my experiences.

As for other forums, I'll be checking around, too. Maybe I'll bump into you in cyberspace. Kim

Jay
Aug 25, 1999 - 10:00   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
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>As for other forums, I'll be checking around, too. Maybe I'll bump >into you in cyberspace. Kim

Yes, hopefully. I will try and post some things to the Delphi Forums (when I have thought of some intelligent things to say!!), under Not So Frequently Asked Questions. People in Action is good but I'm after someting more private and less general. I think I'll move elsewhere and eventually stop checking this thread.

> Another noticable change in me since reading JK is that I am not >dominated or influenced by emotions to any significant degree any > >more. This was a natural development as a result of observing my >life.

I am actually experiencing that now as well. It's good to hear JK has had a postive effect on you. I have read many Krishnamurti books, many times over, for the last seven years and haven't noticed anything positive until recently. What you say about authority is so true also. Most answers to questions I find are within myself, not through some outside source. This isn't to sound grandiose but I think there is a lot to learn through actual experience.

Your words have been valuable, and I hope to bump into you again.

Bye

Valerie
Sep 26, 1999 - 10:00   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
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Please contact me about a bibliography of Krisnamurti.Thank you.

mirro
Oct 07, 1999 - 10:00   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
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Yes,,, what was the basics for changing your life after reading his books ? Whats get you most ?
I did read some as well , where: deep, effective, strong..
His words has the power for those who they feel and wants to listen. But when I write those sentences, I did ask my self: why people talk like I do now, why am I doing this ?          Want some energy, attention of somewhone, ...?
... at last, maybe it is true silens said the most.

mirro

service is the way...

Link: http://fgl.com/sai.htm

jimmy
Oct 16, 1999 - 10:00   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
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At last I managed to make some progress on the internet. The first word that came to mind when going on line was Krishnamurti. I am fascinated by man's message, i have read so much about him and at moments find that I am in tune with wahat he is about , but alas these are only transitory moments and as such 'illusory'.I then return to rereading him and then reflect that somehow he has left us all cold. It really is great to join in this dialogue in order to find out alittle more about the ultimate truth we all seem to yearn for. by the way, Yiannis I speak Greek,good luck in your search for M.

Tony L
Oct 18, 1999 - 10:00   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
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By chance I discovered K in a library some years back. I pulled a tape from the self that look interesting and watched it. It was K and Dr. Bohm having a discussion. I was amazed at the fact that much of what he was saying were things I had thought about my self. I wasn't amazed that he so profound but just at the fact his mind was so similar to mine; or alteast what he was saying seem to reflect that. I have sinced read up on him.
I'm just wondering if anyone else feels the same way or if they find what he's saying original or divinely inspired. Are you baffled by his Ideas or do you understand them?
Not wanting to boast, I think i know where there coming from. It comes out a mystical experience. Anyone who has had one would easily understand where K is coming. it creates an inner disposition that can been seen other people like Buddha, Jesus, Saints, Monks and even Socrates. When i was 18 i had a mystical experience. I think K must have had one also. I don't meam to consider myself his equal because i know i'm no where near his level. However, i do think i glimpsed some of the truths he has.

Bacillo
Oct 30, 1999 - 10:00   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
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I read a lot about J. Krisnamurti and I am very happy about it.
I discovered the life realty studying his discussions and now I can certainly live my life in a better way.
I suggest you to read several books of Krisnaj edit from roman editor Ubaldini that you can find in every book store of yr town in Italy.
If later you would like to exchange some opinion about his think with me I will be very happy of it.

ciao

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