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Fred
May 03, 2003 - 18:49   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Is it just me, or would it be easier to shoot the cow in the head, in daylight, where it doesn't even see it coming. It wouldn't be Kosher, some would say costly, But if I was a cow, I would like to be out in the open. Why don't they try that? No shock needed, the animal never even smells the blood before it's death, and is all in one peice to be cut up.

shaun
Jul 08, 2003 - 03:31   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
I am not Jewish and up until now had no real problems with the jew's customs, but after researching how they and some muslims prefer their animals slaughtered, I AM OUTRAGED! i cannot believe this is still legal! to say its their religious right is rediculous. it's our right as a civilized society to realize that all animals SUFFER; jews, muslims and myself included. just because it's your religion stops with you. slughter yourself but no other living creature in such a horrid way. religion is is the only true abomination to god. Margret Mead, a noted annthropologist, once studied a tribe of people in New Guinea that had strange rituals as well. the prepubescent boys in this tribe have to perform felatio on the older men of the tribe every night until they reach the age to marry a woman. At this point other little boys are indebted to them. These people believe than manliness comes from the male ejaculate. If these people were to come to the United States, should we allow them to continue because it's their solemn religious right? NO. we realize that manhood is not derived in a conspicous act of forced child rape because we are more cilized than to think one gains it from swallowing semen. Likewise, we realize that the last 15 minutes of any conscious living creature's life should not be in the horrid agonizing suffocating state of having its legs tied, throat cut, bleeding a slow death.

Scooter
Oct 09, 2003 - 22:45   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Stop killing Innocent Puppies! (Petition)
To the President of the Dalmatian Club of America: Dr. Charles Garvin. On your website you warn people that 12% of all Dalmatians are born deaf and should be euthanised and that: "Too many children have faced the plastic surgeon's knife after innocently touching a sleeping, deaf dog... a dog which in every other way was the most perfect pet imaginable. DEAF DOGS ARE POTENTIALLY VERY DANGEROUS."
When questioned about this, Dr. Garvin, you defended the continued breeding and killing of one in eight Dalmatian puppys (thousands in a year) for the protection of children and the "betterment of the Dalmatian breed." We feel this practice is unethical, immoral, and illogical when the end result is only to perfect a companion dog.
There are a multitude of dog breeds available today that aren't prone to being dangerous to children and of which nearly 100% of the puppies born are viable and well suited for companions. This petition has been formed to ask your club to put a moratorium on the breeding and slaughter until a positive DNA test is available for your breeding dogs!
It is hoped this petition will also serve to educate parents of this danger to their innocent children. We feel it's unethical and immoral to breed and promote ANY breed of animal of which you advise that approximately 1/8 of them be killed for the safety of children!
Thank you!
Petition:
http://www.petitiononline.com/skip/petition.html
Delphi Forum:
http://forums.prospero.com/humane/start
Yahoo Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stopkillinginnocentpuppies

Beth Maxwell Boyle
Nov 20, 2003 - 14:03   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
http://www.grandin.com/ritual/kosher.slaugh.html

Learn the truth. Slaughter is never nice but if done right it is not cruel. I eat meat and I take responcibility for what I eat. I have my own sheep slaughtered at a small Butcher Shop in PA in a humane fashion. Knee jerk emotional reactions are stupid. Its not that simple.

Sharon
Dec 08, 2003 - 05:07   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
let me take you all through the mind of a poor apple. growing slowly developing.... and ouch! nasty person ripped it off the tree and viciously bit into it!!!! please people stop pulling things out of their source of life - have pity on the apple!!!

Alycia
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Mar 03, 2004 - 12:36   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Animals deserve to be treated like humans. Why should we go into their environments and destroy their homes when they are doing no harm. I think this society is a good idea.

GreenDrummer
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May 17, 2004 - 14:00   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Please Sign the petition to get animal abuse and violation off the air.

www.petitiononline.com/noabuse4

For those of you who aren't aware who Ted Nugent is, this man has a show on widely veiwed TV station VH1, in which he publically maims and kills animals, in the name of 'entertainment'.

These are quotes from the man himself:

"He shoots at anything," Mr. Cairnes claims. "You should kill what you can use. He just likes to kill a lot of animals." (Cairnes is a hunting guide who takes people out to stab wild pigs in Hawaii) - The Wall Street Journal , July 25, 1995, 'Why Sit on the Beach When You Could Stab a Wild Pig?

"... First thing I slayed...I was nine years old. It was a squirrel, these ladies were feeding it, you know, and I said, 'excuse me, bam.' No it wasn't a pet squirrel. I had it stuffed and petted it for years after that." - WRIF-FM, Detroit, Ted Nugent as guest D.J., September 26, 1991

Whacking is a term Nugent uses to describe what he does to his prey with bow and arrow. Whack 'em and stack 'em,' he says. - Detroit Free Press Magazine , July 15, 1990

It is extremely worrying that young and impressionable people are watching this show. We wonder why kids are going out and torturing cats?

This man was also in the news recently for making racist remarks towards and indian animal rights activist, and spitting on her.

Sign the petition to make sure this monster is banished from our airwaves.

www.petitiononline.com/noabuse4

Mapex
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Jun 07, 2004 - 22:19   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
About Kosher:



The bible is a compilation of apparent events and views written by differen't individuals and philosophers. In the words of Peter Singer "It could be said this is God being created in the image of man, not man being created in the image of god". It was written by man, and it mans arrogance shows through out it. If God was seen as such a good being, and put other animals here for our use, why would he have given them the ability to suffer. Wouldn't that just be evil?
Of course when we have for so long believed that religion was the right path to follow, our need for security, something to believe in then people do not like that being challenged, even if it deserves questioning.

One could also look at it in the way of if we are so intelligent, we would realise that the way we oppress and violate other life was wrong. The way of killing other animals by slitting their throat and letting the blood drain out causes great suffering, it is unecessary. The religous belief that it is right is based on someones veiws, not logic.

cosack
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Jul 09, 2004 - 01:50   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Puppy killers and Ted Nugent, add this one to the list of promoting animal abuse and trying to make it look legitimate.

http://www.friendsofsananselmo.org/dogsign.html

Ursula Mazzucchetti
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Jul 12, 2004 - 12:06   Edit Post Delete Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
from Ursula Mazzucchetti ursuland@tele2.it

BAD NEWS FROM ITALY

8 JULY 2004



Eighteen enclosure hours on a lorry.
A long journey, in slaughtering conditions, to finish neo laboratories of a pharmaceutical company of Nerviano. The transfer from the airport in Paris To Malpensa of 120 Macaques concluded himself yesterday morning at six o'clock
macaques coming from the Mauritius island. At Malpensa airport to wait for the precious one ( value declared 306 thousand euro ), there were the men of the forest body of state to which the task to verify the validity of the licences and the regularities of the authorizations for the importation is assigned. The macaques’ traffic is forbidden in the context of the European Comunity as kind to high extinction risk. But everything turned out in rule on the basis of a dispensation concerning the animals destined to the research laboratories.
Protected and often worshipped in the zones of origin, the macaques represent on the international market especially valid and sought-after animals to be used for the experimentation. And the Farney-Maherborug ( Mauritius islands) Noveprim Group is specialized in the stock farm in captivity of these primates then to export them in all the world. The "match" reached yesterday to Malpensa, (Italien airport) was destined to a pharmaceutical company of Nerviano Medical which is responsible for studying the toxicity level and then the tolerance degree of
new antitumoral products.
The transport of the 120 monkeys had to happen in the maximum discretion. From several directions in fact, they took for time protests and requests for the suspension of the research off on the Primates. And it is maybe to avoid disputes by the animalist than the journey took place on a motorvehicle and not the plane.
Soon after the arrival to Malpensa the unloading operations are begun.
The 120 monkeys, everyones strictly with a recognition number tattooed on the chest, are in clear situation of stress and torpor for the efforts and the uncomfortable of the journey. It’s painful lets see them move with difficulty, their so agile on the trees. A monkey is wounded to a hand, it loses blood. The lesion seems both been caused by the metal net of separation between a container and the other. Probably the macaque hurt himself trying to go out. The clearanced practices are sped up to the maximum. The cases are loaded in a hurry.
The researchers are ready to isolate, in quarantine, all the animals.
The motorvehicle left again with his macaques load. For the last journey.



The letter to send to the “criminals”

Nous demandons que l'importation, la détention et l'expérimentation sur
> les macaques des Île Mauritius (destinés aux laboratoires de Nerviano)
> CESSENT IMMEDIATEMENT !
> Nous sommes horrifiés par cette cruauté, notamment sur des espèce très
> sensible, et surtout très proches aux être humains.
> Nous demandons donc d'arrêter d'être complices de ces TORTURES.
> AYEZ HONTE DE VOUS MÊMES!!!
>
> nom, prénom,
> adresse
> pays
ADRESSES

Michel de Claviere
> 25, rue du Mont d'Or
> 69450 Saint Cyr au Mont d'Or
> Frankreich
> 0033/ 4 72 19 46 26
> claviere@aol.com
>
> Gérald de Senneville
> Harbour Front Building - 6e etage
> Place d'armes
> Port Louis
> Mauritius
> Tel: 00230 / 211 26 86
> Fax: 00230 / 211 31 59
> gds@cielgroup.com
>
> DE M. BESTEL J.J. Eric
> Le Vallon
> Ferney
> MAHEBOURG - ILE MAURICE
> Tél. : 00230 /25 11 022
> Fax : 00230 /63 45 648
> E-mail : jjedmb@intnet.mu
>
>
>


translation

We ask that finishes immediately the importation, the detention, and the

experimentation on the macaques of the Mauritius islands, directs to

medical laboratory of animal sperimentation of Nerviano in Italy . destined to linger and die in laboratories.

STOP IMMEDIATLY!

We are been horrified of a lot of cruelty used on kind animals very sensitive and very near being

human. Therefore we ask to stop it to being accomplices of these

tortures. please feel ashamed

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