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V. J. Laxmanan New Collaborator Registered: Sep 2004 Post Number: 5 Oct 04, 2004 - 08:06    Dear Parameshwari: I think one of the brothers was named Rajan. That is all I can remember. Unfortunately, I cannot even remember the name of the suburb. It certainly was not T. Nagar. He was the oldest of the four. He did a reading, in my absence, based on just my thumb print, prior to my visit to Chennai, and the readings were mailed to me. I decided to make the trip to Chennai shortly afterward, since certain "pariharams" (atonement for sins) were prescribed. I decided I might do that as well as meet the Nadi reader as well. Unfortunately, in spite of repeated attempts I never met him. Then, his younger brother volunteered to do the reading. This was done, in my presence, just as you described. I was quite impressed by the process of locating the exact leaf that belongs to an individual. However, as I had mentioned, nothing to date from the predictions made has come true! Again, Parameshwari, you ask and I reply. Someday may be I will be the one asking Parameshwari. I remember reading in the scriptures that before you return to the earth, for a a new life, you get a chance to be in the presence of The Divine Couple. Jagatha-ha Pithrau vande Parvati Parameshwarou, Or Parati-pa Rameshwarou. You get a chance to be seated on Her lap and She blesses you before you are reborn and sent back here. I have sometimes wondered what I might have said to Her before I was reborn. I am, as you can see, full of things to say. So, I must have amused Her as well - with my stupidity. I have wondered what I might ask Her the next time around! But I have been promising myself that the next time I would should remain very very quiet and listen to Her instead of asking any questions.

Keshav Fulena Visitor Oct 17, 2004 - 18:32    Hi everyone ! I'm Keshav from Mauritius..I recently got the good luck of having 'Agastya' nadi reading done in Mauritius and I was very shocked at the accuracy of the facts mentioned in the leaf..Now,I'm very interested in Nadi astrology and plan to come to India to get more readings done by other sages.Could someone please guide me to find the names and addresses of nadi readers in South India area ? I know where to get shiva and shuka nadis but I want to know where Shukra , Budha , Brahma , kowmara ,Dhruva , Bhrigu nadis could be obtained...Thanks !!!

TS Visitor Oct 25, 2004 - 15:39    I got my naadi reading done in Chennai about 3 years back. It was at Kilpauk and there were also brothers (re: Mr Laxmanan's post). Kumar was the one who read mine, I subsequently got ANOTHER reading done (to cross check) this time in Pune, by a gentleman by the name of Bala, in Aundh. My experiences were,unfortunately, less than satisfying. For the past it was 100% accurate. But the future predictions (which are the ones more important to those of us who visit astrologers and the like), it was, I think, to a large extent quite inaccurate. And when I spoke to others who had also had their naadi read, they all reported, that the readers told them about the past VERY confidently, but when it came to the future, became a little vague and woolly. However, it is still a fun activity to undertake on a quiet summer afternoon. I especially like the part where the reader without knowing anything about me told me my name and those of my parents! It made a shiver run down my spine! There were some writings I read (online, of course), where I read, that one plausible explanation for this is the fact that the naadi readers are into occult sciences. That they control wayward demi-gods known as 'Kshudra devatas'. An even more creepy hypothesis was that they control the souls of people who are trapped between worlds. I don't believe that, because I subscribe to the idea of the bhavishyapurana. But a word of warning, no kind of astrological prediction should ever be taken to heart so that we live our lives revolving around it to the exclusion of sense, responsibility and duties. As a matter of interest for Mr Pittard- the Hoshiarpur district in the northern Indian state of Punjab is said to have the Bhrighu Samhita, purportedly written by Bhrighu rishi and is akin to the Naadis found in South India. Vaitheeswaran Koil, a short drive from the famous temple town of Chidambaram, is the epicentre of most naadi activity in the southern Indian state of Tamil Nadu.

V. J. Laxmanan New Collaborator Registered: Dec 2004 Post Number: 1 Dec 12, 2004 - 13:36    Hello All: I am returning to this message board after nearly 2 months. My last post was on Oct 9, 2004. On Oct 11, 2004, I got involved with a brand new activity - a new business opportunity. It is now exactly 2 months and my progress towards reaching my goals has been very slow compared to others before me who have achieved phenomenal success in just 4 months. I am involved in a management trainee program which offers everyone an opportunity to learn all aspects of a very interesting business. The trainess then open up their own office and grow the business by teaching others what they have learned. There are no set time limits but the average time when the company expects the future managers of their new offices to complete the training program is about 6 months. Why have I not been successful - or making speedy progress - when I know of two others who were able to complete their training programs and open their new offices in just 4 months and 6 months respectively? I say it is all written in the stars and the horoscope - or what we call the law of karma. In each life we actually pay for the sins of the past - not so much the sins of the present, although we keep accumulating sins in this life as well. One of the nadi readers told me that I was a a successful business owner in a past life but that I had also mistreated my employees. The position of Rahu and Ketu in my horoscope, according to another nadi reader, whom I respect a lot, foretells that I have to learn and repay from my past. It is my poorvapunya (the good deeds - punya - from the past - poorva) that have kept me going and that may be what I am now learning in this new phase of my life. Please see the following post - since it is getting too long. Message edited by the author on Dec 12, 2004 - 13:53 Message edited by the author on Dec 12, 2004 - 14:01

V. J. Laxmanan New Collaborator Registered: Dec 2004 Post Number: 2 Dec 12, 2004 - 13:38    Hello All: Now, I contine where I left off in the previous post. The new managmenent trainee program is in Sales and Marketing, in which I had no background at all. My education and professional experience has been in engineering and the sciences. Yet, I personally enjoy what I am doing. I love to interact with people and I now meet a lot of people. I get the opportunity to stay outdoors most of the day. I watch a lot of sunsets during the course of my working day. I meet and talk to total strangers, a lot of them in a single day. This, my company, believes is the first step to builing and operating a successful office which will be profitable. Yet, I am far from my goals. Or, am I? May be not. May be I am reaching my goal and becoming a better and newer human being through this new training program. I am learning to relate to people and that is what my horoscope seems to tell. In one nadi reading there was a discussion about the 12th house of my horoscope. The Guru and the students are discussing my horoscope - this is how the reading is presented. The Guru - the sage Agasthya - is talking about my past and prescribing the parihaarams (atonement for sins past). Suddenly, one of the students starts talking about my 12th house and says how could this individual have a great life like you predict when his 12th house.... there it ends. We do not know what the student wanted to say since the Guru cuts him off and says - the parihaarams have been prescribed and he would perform them. There is no need to discuss the 12th house. Interestingly, there are no planets in the 12th house of my horoscope. It is the 11th house - the house that deals with profession, jobs, etc. where Rahu is located. This is the house where all the action is and where my moon is located - a full moon. The sun is in the 5th house with Mercury, which makes it a Budha-Adthiya Yoga, conducive to high achievements in education and learning and also blessing one with poorvapunya. The 10th and the 12th houses are blank. After the nadi reading I tried to learn more about horoscopes and read a lot of Vedic astrology books. I still do not know the issues with the 12th house of my horoscope. May be someday I will. May be I am taking the steps now in that direction. Karmani eva adhikaras thay Maa phalay-shu kadhaachana. You only have the right to perform your duties (karmas, or karmani), you do not have the right to except the fruits for your actions, says Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad Gita. In other words, He will decide what the fruits will be. I don't. So, I will not. If my progess towards my goals appears to be slow, I will take simply as His Divine Will and keep on doing what I can to the best of my ability, nadi or no nadi reading. Even if I had never been to any nadi reader, I do not think anything would have changed in my life. Like TS says in his post just before mine, this nadi reading is an interesting experience - like many others in life. Maa thay karma hay-thur bhoo Be not motivated by the fruits of your actions. Maa thay sangoes-thu a-karamani Do not give up actions (or get attached, sanga) to inaction. This is Lord Krishna's teaching in the second chapter. Keep performing your duties. Do not expect, or hanker, after the fruits of thy labor. And do not fall into the trap of inaction, i.e. give up when fruits do not seem to be coming your way. Indeed, what else can any janthu (living creature) do? All living creatures must act ceaselessly. This is how Lord Krishna contines his dialogue in the third chapter with Arjuna. Have a great day. Let's see what happens in the next few weeks. Message edited by the author on Dec 12, 2004 - 13:58

swami Visitor Feb 04, 2005 - 07:37    hi I am doing the research abut Nadi Astrology. if any one have the experince please post it to my id. ramanan@dacafe.com. it will be very helpful for me thank you. swami

Symphoney Visitor Feb 22, 2005 - 08:29    Hi, I have some information on the folks near Vaideeshwaran temple who deal in Nadi Joshiyam (Astrology). Please check out http://memorylanes.blogspot.com after a day or two for the details. I will be posting the details to this site in a day or two.

VAS Visitor Feb 24, 2005 - 21:33    Long long ago, when my father was in his late twenties (he is in his mid eighties now), he was taken by my grandfather to consult Sahadeva nadi. My father was visiting his parents at Kumbakonam then,so I presume the readings were done at Vaitheswaran Koil. According to legend, Kunti asked her youngest son Sahadev, who was a great astrologer, to predict the future of all beings and Sahadev obliged. So the nadi would begin every reading with Kelum Thaye Kunti!' (Listen,O mother Kunti!. My father did not say anything about thumb impression being taken. All he said was that they had to simply go there and wait and the Naadi will call them by name. as soon as my father's name was called and he came into Naadi's presence it scolded him for professing disbelief in Naadi and asked him to go say a prayer in the nearby temple (My father had indeed been protesting to his father that Naadi is all nonsense). When he came back it announced that my father will have a son( Not sure whether my father or grandfather asked the Naadi the gender of the child my mother was carrying or whether the Naadi simply guessed what was in their minds) My father and grandfather came back home only to find that my mother had miscarried! So my father went back the next day to confront the Naadi. Once again as soon as my father came into its presence, the Naadi announced that my mother had miscarried. At another instance, my father,his younger brother and my grandfather went to the Naadi to find out if my uncle would procure a seat in a particular college. The naadi insisted that he already had. my uncle admitted with embarrasment that he has indeed been given a seat but in a subject not to his liking ( He had not told his family about this). The naadi then went on to say that he will get to study the subject of his liking. None of them believed it, because it was past the date for seat allocation. But surprisingly my uncle did get a seat due to someone dropping out. In yet another instance, my father went with a family friend to find out about his son's careeer prospects. His son was in the police service. The naadi predicted great future for that boy. However the son died the next year. Another incident my father witnessed was when a mother and her step-son came to consult the naadi. As soon as they entered the temple compound, the naadi announced that the two had illicit relationship, that the atmosphere has been polluted, and the naadi will not speak further that day until certain pujas are performed by the Naadi reader. All naadi seekers were requested to return the next day. The mother and son quietly slipped away and later it transpired that what Naadi said about them was true. As with other people who consult Naadi, my father felt that Naadi predicts past accurately, but its performance regarding future is at best spotty. One other interesting fact. According to my father,the Naadi readers of those days did not accept any contribution, monetary or otherwise. In fact anyone who accepted any form of contribution, would promptly lose the gift of naadi reading. The naadi would then instruct the recalcitrant reader to transfer the Olais to another person, selected by the Naadi. That said, I do not understand how the Naadi readers of today could charge high fees to read the Suvedi and not lose their prophetic gift? Any comments? Thank you,

V. J. Laxmanan New Collaborator Registered: Dec 2004 Post Number: 3 Feb 26, 2005 - 21:15    Hi All: VAS has posted a very interesting message about Nadi astrologers of Vaitheswaran Koil. I visited this temple, in 1998, since it was one of the places I was asked to visit based on my Nadi reading. As noted by many others, I too have found that the Nadi readings about the past are quite accurate. So, why not the future? My cobrother who introduced me to Nadi reading was told that he would suffer from severe abdominal pains and undergo surgery and also that he would be blessed with a daughter. Both predictions came true. His brother also went to the same Nadi reader. He was asked to do several pariharams (atonements for sins of the past). He had not performed any, the last I know of it. He is doing fine. The Nadi reader also made some predictions in my case. The most important was that I would gain worldwide recognition for my work. The reading mentioned 2003 as the year in which it would happen. Needless to say, no knows who I am, to this date.

V. J. Laxmanan New Collaborator Registered: Dec 2004 Post Number: 4 Feb 26, 2005 - 21:44    Hi All: To continue along the same lines as my previous post, I find a lot of interest in Nadi readings among the posters here. How about good old astrology? I have taken interest in astrology since 1998, partly because I learned something important about ancient Vedic astrology. In this system, they use a correction called the Ayanamsa. This is related to a very subtle astronomical phenomenon known as the precession of the equinoxes. This got me interested since, as I soon learned, Western astrologers do not use this correction. So, it appeared to me that there was much more to astrology than I had given it credit until then. I began the task of studying astrology after that to find out what it is all about. To complete the story, let me explain briefly what is meant by the precession of the equinoxes. The equinox is the day of the year when light and day are of equal length in all parts of the globe. The sun's rays are exactly parallel to each other on this one single day for observers in every part of the globe. The period of sunlight is exactly 12 hours for a person on the equator and also for a person near the 45 degree North latitude (quite close to where I now live), or the 30 degree North latitude and so on. There are two days on which this occurs. The date of the equinox is March 21 or March 22 each year for those who live above the equator. This is the first day of spring in this hemisphere. (It is also the first of autumn for those who live in the southern hemisphere.) The length of the days (hours of sunlight) increase after the spring equinox to the summer solstice, which occurs on June 21 or June 22. This is the longest day of the year. The lengthening hours of sunlight was most noticeable in the higher latitudes. They are not so noticeable for those who live closer to the equator. After the summer solstice (I am using northern hemispere dates), the length of the day, i.e., hours of sunlight decrease from June 21 to Sep 21. On this date in Sep again, day and night are of equal length. This the autumnal equinox. After this equinox, the hours of sunlight continue to decrease until we arrive at the shortest day on Dec 21 or Dec 22, in the northern hemisphere. Then the length of the days increase until we reach the spring equinox on March 21. One cycle has thus been completed and the earth has completed one orbit around the sun. One year has elapsed according to our reckoning. Now what exactly is the precession of the equinox. On the dates that I have given above for the spring equinox, the sun is supposed to be located at the starting point of the zodiac. This is the zero point of an imaginary circle in the heavens within which we find the sun, moon, and the planets when we make observations. This imaginary circle (part of the large spherical dome called the sky) is divided into 12 equal parts of 30 degrees each. Each 30 degree segment is a sign of the zodiac. The sun is supposed to enter the 0 degree of Aries on the date of the spring equinox, in the Northern hemisphere. But, if you are an astronomer and look in the sky, you will find that the sun is not at 0 degree of Aries. The sun is still actually in the previous sign, Pisces. It moves into Aries, much later, in April. So Western astronomers laugh when they see the astrological charts made by the (Western astrologers). The charts are nonsense since the astrologer, it appears, does not even know the position of the sun, the moon, or the planets. This is also the reason why most scientists, especially those in the West, are careful not to associate themselves with these jokers called astrologers. I came from the same school of thought, being a Western educated person of Indian origin. I had given no great thought or credence to astrological predictions. Then I found out about the Ayanamsa correction which Vedic astrologers still use. This correction accounts for the drift in the position of the equinox. Most Western educated scientists have no idea about Vedic astrology and the fact that planetary position correspond to that observed in the sky, after accounting for the precession of the equinoxes.

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